This week we discuss the following:
Week 17 start-sit decisions
Week 17 is championship week in a substantial minority of leagues.
Let's consider some Week 17 sleepers here. Who are the payers fantasy owners are most likely to keep on the bench this week to their own detriment?
Matt Waldman: Albert Wilson continues to generate momentum as a valuable contributor. He has a little bit of Steve Smith, Sr. in his game. He's not as powerful or as explosive, but he wins the ball in contested situations, plays bigger than his size, and has skill after the catch. San Diego is a decent match up for him to continue performing well down the stretch.
Jeff Haseley: I'm going to choose Martellus Bennett. Jay Cutler is returning to the lineup and I can see him leaning on Bennett especially with Brandon Marshall out of the picture. Cutler is 360 yards away from 4,000 yards passing, so I can see him trying to reach that goal. In the same breath, Bennett himself is 143 yards from a thousand-yard season. I don't know if there are incentives on those goals but personally, I'd be gunning for them if it were me. Cutler tends to lean on certain players. This week both are leaning on each other. (Hat tip to Jeff Pasquino for bringing this milestone narrative to my attention.)
Stephen Holloway: Doug Baldwin is coming off his second 100-yard receiving game of the season, and his first came back in Week 7 against the Rams. Seattle's offense is gaining momentum heading into the playoffs and the Wilson-Baldwin connection could come up big for the second week in a row.
Kyle Wachtel: Although Keenan Allen hasn't yet been ruled out for Week 17, I don't see any way that he suits up, which leaves Malcom Floyd with a chance to shine. In the first game without Allen this season, Floyd posted a modest 4-50-1 line, which is production right in line with his season averages and expectations. However, he did have post season highs in snaps (82) and targets (9). Despite Dontrelle Inman's breakout, Floyd remains the wide receiver to own on San Diego and with not every team at full-go, he finds himself encroaching on WR2 territory.
Ryan Hester: I tend to think that teams already eliminated from contention and just "playing out the string" are nice targets—as long as they're not teams near the bottom of the league who could benefit in draft position from losing. I like Matt Asiata this week against a weak Chicago defense that hasn't been putting forth maximum effort for about a month now. Conversely, as Jeff said, I like Chicago's passing game players as well. Minnesota's defense hasn't been good over the last month and change, so they've become a nice fantasy target.
Oakland's Latavius Murray could also be a nice play this week. Denver team whose playoff position is pretty close to set (they need to beat Oakland to get the 2-seed and are favored heavily). Oakland will continue to want to get a long look at Murray, so he's likely to be playing regardless of game script. That could lead to some garbage time-type stats in a game that is decided early in the fourth quarter.
Will Grant: Denver has struggled lately, but they have a huge incentive to rip up the Raiders this week. With New England locked into the number one spot, a Denver loss and Cincinnati win would mean they miss the other potential bye week. Since Cincinnati plays Pittsburgh on Sunday night, the Broncos will have to light it up to lock in their chances. Look for Peyton Manning, Demaryius Thomas, Julius Thomas and C.J. Anderson to really have a big game because the Broncos will want to lock in that week off.
Are there any players you think a lot of fantasy owners will start this week even though they shouldn't?
Ryan Hester: Due to the fact that some teams are locked into playoff seeds regardless of their results this week, it's very risky to start players from certain teams. New England, for instance, is locked into the 1-seed in the AFC. They may play certain guys the whole game, but it's likely they'll rest their veterans and not play a complete game.
I'd be very nervous to start any Dallas or Indianapolis players as well. Indianapolis is nearly 100% locked into the 3-seed. If they don't get that, they're the 4-seed. The scenario that would knock them down to the 4-seed has nothing to do with the result of their game. It would only occur if Denver loses to Oakland and Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh. Therefore, I wouldn't be starting any of my Indianapolis players this week. They could have even less motivation than their "roll-over" game in Dallas last weekend.
As for Dallas, they have a similar situation to Indianapolis in that their own result has no bearing on their ultimate seed. Dallas would get the NFC's 2-seed if both Seattle and Arizona lose but would be the 3-seed in every other scenario not involving a tied game between Green Bay and Detroit (which could actually get Dallas the 1-seed).
This year's rookie wide receivers
It's hard to believe we can go this deep, but from this year's rookie wide receiver class, I'm going to give my top 15 prospects in order of where I'd select them in 2015 redraft leagues and invite you guys to comment on where and why you differ.
1. Odell Beckham Jrmdash;NYG
Matt Waldman: We should have a consensus here. Beckham will remain primary receiver even with Cruz coming back. Cruz returning healthy will only be a bonus, but I have my doubts that he'll return to his previous form.
Alex Miglio: There is no qualm here. Beckham may be the best new receiver we see for a while, and he has shown a consistent ability to beat anyone and score consistently despite defenses knowing what's coming.
2. Mike Evans—TB
Matt Waldman: He's a lot like Benjamin with better skill around the ball. The quarterback situation is a concern, but I agree with this spot based on how he's performed.
Alex Miglio: He is a beast, and he has proven that quarterback situation doesn't matter much.
Kyle Wachtel: I'd go with Kelvin Benjamin here. He ranks fifth in the NFL with 137 targets this season and will remain the clear-cut number one option for Carolina, while Mike Evans will be forced to share the ball with Vincent Jackson, who has another two years on his contract and even ranks sixth in the NFL with 136 targets. For comparison, Evans has 110 targets with one less game played. I prefer the target hog in Benjamin over a piece of the 1A/1B receiver platoon in Tampa Bay. I'd move Mike Evans down to number three.
3. Kelvin Benjamin—CAR
Matt Waldman: A healthier Cam and a healthier line should keep Benjamin performing in this range.
Alex Miglio: Can Benjamin slough off the "lazy" label and become a consistent fantasy option? I'm not totally convinced. The Panthers are in an interesting position right now, with Cam Newton set to get paid and seemingly little flexibility to add weapons aside from Benjamin. I'm not convinced that offense will be good enough to keep Benjamin a top option next season. I'd actually go with Brandin Cooks here ahead of Benjamin.
Kyle Wachtel: As I mentioned before, I'd move Benjamin up a spot.
4. Brandin Cooks—NO
Matt Waldman: I like Cooks, but the Saints spread things around and Cooks is still not a classic, all-around option. Doesn't matter a ton with specialization that Saints like to use with skill guys, but I'd knock him down a spot to number five behind Sammy Watkins.
Jeff Haseley: This is the first spot where I disagree with the ranking. I agree with Matt that I'd put Sammy Watkins here.
Alex Miglio: Cooks is a PPR stud, perhaps the second-best rookie in that scoring format going forward. Losing him seemed to affect New Orleans more than anyone lets on. He's my number three choice behind only Beckham and Evans.
Stephen Holloway: I really enjoyed watching how the Saints used Brandin Cooks early and think that he will again be heavily involved in the game plan, but I'd move him down to number five to accommodate moving Sammy Watkins ahead of him (and ahead of Benjamin as well).
Ryan Hester: I don't feel comfortable relying on Cooks, and I'd move him down about four spots from here.
Will Grant: Cooks could be a real boom-or-bust pick. The Saints are in the middle of a transition, and Cooks could really emerge as their go-to receiver. Or they could bring in new blood and he could become an average contributor in a strong offense. That gives him WR1 potential, but could make him a WR2-WR3.
5. Sammy Watkins—BUF
Matt Waldman: Watkins may not have as good a quarterback as three of the other four options in the top five, but he played with busted ribs for half the season. I expect more catches and some bigger plays with a healthy start and more continuity with one starting QB. He's my number four.
Jeff Haseley: I would put Watkins fourth simply due to his talent and that he is the primary receiving threat on Buffalo. The quarterback situation is anyone's guess, but it looks like it might be Kyle Orton again. Regardless of who is at quarterback, Watkins' talent rises to the top and like Matt said, he's been playing with injured ribs for most of the year.
Alex Miglio: I would rank him at least a few spots lower simply because his quarterback situation isn't going to improve next season.
Stephen Holloway: If Buffalo's quarterback situation improves at all, I prefer Watkins at number three. Even with his lingering injuries, Watkins ranked second in yards per reception among rookies with 14.9.
Ryan Hester: Watkins could end up being a steal come draft time as people look back on his relatively modest season-long stats. There was a three-week stretch early in the season where it looked like he would outperform his draft position, which seemed back in the preseason to be far too high according to many experts. He could be a nice "post-hype sleeper" candidate in 2015. I'd put him at the number four spot after only Beckham, Evans, and Benjamin.
6. Jordan Matthews—PHI
Matt Waldman: Matthews-Eagles is the perfect fit, because he's the Marcus Colston-like receiver in this offense that loves to match him with linebackers and safeties. I think he still has more growth potential, but not so much that he becomes a top-flight all-around receiver who can play outside. Therefore I think this is a probably a good spot for him. However, he's the demarcation line for me between "safe production based on what we've seen vs. greater talent/skill/potential that has yet to see a great opportunity and blossom."
Jeff Haseley: I'd put Matthews a spot higher at number five. My reasoning is that if I put Sammy Watkins at number four, I'll be choosing between Brandin Cooks and Jordan Matthews at number five. I could go either way, but I'll side with Matthews and the Eagles offense over Cooks and the Saints struggles, not to mention many receiving options in New Orleans.
Alex Miglio: Matthews faces the same quarterback problem as Watkins: the Philadelphia Eagles will be hard-pressed to improve upon Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez this offseason. Unless they trade the farm for Marcus Mariota, anyway. On the flip side, he might be the new No. one receiver if Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper both go.
Will Grant: I think even if they make some changes at the quarterback position, Matthews has the potential to really become a good wide receiver. Maclin always seems to be banged up and there have been times that Matthews looked really solid this season. In this high-speed, high-touch-potential offense, Matthews could turn into a guy that will have six or seven catches a week.
7. Jarvis Landry—MIA
Matt Waldman: Landry has great ball skills, but like Matthews he's a zone route runner who is not a good man route runner, which means he's more of a slot player until he shows massive improvement against single coverage. I'd bump him down a few spots because what you see is what you get.
Jeff Haseley: I like Jarvis Landry at seven simply because I expect him to see a lot of volume, especially if Mike Wallace and his hefty contract is elsewhere next year. Landry could be the 2013 version of Kendall Wright. If that's the case, he may finish much higher than the seventh-best second-year receiver.
Alex Miglio: Another PPR gem, Landry seems to have become a reliable target for Ryan Tannehill. If he can get into the end zone a bit more, he'll be a sneaky good pick next season.
Stephen Holloway: This ranking is a bit high for my liking. I'd put Martavis Bryant here, and then Donte Moncrief, sliding Landry down to number ten.
8. Martavis Bryant—PIT
Matt Waldman: I'd seriously consider him over Mathews, but I'll put him just below at No.7. He has the talent to be even with Benjamin if he becomes an all-around route runner and used more in red zone. I think it happens.
Jeff Haseley: I've got Martavis Bryant slotted in right here at number eight, but he is another who could finish higher than the slot I have for him. Teams will be focused on stopping Antonio Brown. I like the possibilities for Bryant to take a step forward next year.
Alex Miglio: Bryant is probably going to be drafted too high next offseason, but his ability is undeniable. The problem with ranking him so highly is he is very much a boom-or-bust prospect on a weekly basis, and I don't see that changing much next season.
Ryan Hester: Perhaps he should be below Cooks and Landry in PPR leagues, but he has shown that he can make plays and gets high-value targets.
9. Donte Moncrief—IND
Matt Waldman: Decent hands, but still drops some contested plays and not a real route runner yet. Not sure who is going to teach him if Wayne is gone.
Jeff Haseley: Moncrief is outside my top ten, down at number eleven. I would love to put him higher, but his inability to rise to the occasion in the second half of the year has me concerned. I have a feeling there's a reason for that and the Colts know it.
Alex Miglio: I like him a lot better than this ranking simply because he should be the number two receiver next year, meaning far more stability in the fantasy realm. He might still be a bit raw, but he is Martavis Bryant with more targets, if things pan out the way I expect them to in Indianapolis next year.
Kyle Wachtel: Moncrief has tortured owners in back-to-back weeks, but he's still in position to move into the starting lineup opposite T.Y. Hilton next year. Andrew Luck already has posted career highs in passing yards (4601) and touchdowns (38) with a game left to go. As a starting wide receiver, Moncrief would become a boom-or-bust WR3 at the very least with a real shot at sustained WR2 production and for that reason, I would currently slot him sixth on the list.
Ryan Hester: I'd move Moncrief even higher than Kyle, up to number five. He's likely to be a starter in an Andrew Luck-led offense across from T.Y. Hilton, who will draw a lot of coverage. I like the value here.
Will Grant: I'll go in the opposite direction and move him down a bit. He's got some real potential and he's in a great position to step into a big role there, but he can really disappear at times and he's got just five catches for 38 yards over the last three games. Maybe with another year, he'll really start to step into his own, but I've seen him disappear enough this season to make me shy away from him for a bit.
10. Cody Latimer—DEN
Matt Waldman: I'd bump him above Moncrief and Landry. Not a single receiver on this list other than maybe Beckham would have seen the field as a starter in Denver. I'd rather have him than Matthews long-term, but for 2015 only, I'll keep him below Jordan Matthews.
Jeff Haseley: I'd bump Latimer down to around the 13th slot. He could shoot up the list if Wes Welker is out, but there's still the concern of Peyton Manning and his aging decline.
Alex Miglio: Even if Welker leaves, the presence of Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders are obstacles. Latimer is a nice talent, but unless Demaryius Thomas leaves in free agency there won't be enough targets to go around for Latimer next year.
Ryan Hester: I'd bump him down a slot to number eleven. This one is very depth chart-dependent, but the talent and offensive system are there.
11. Marqise Lee—JAX
Matt Waldman: Dynamic, but still has issues with contested targets and makes some really foolish choices as a runner. Bump him down.
Jeff Haseley: I'd bump Lee down to number twelve so that I can fit Allen Robinson ahead of him. Lee will be the number two wide receiver in Jacksonville behind Robinson.
Alex Miglio: I much prefer Allen Robinson, who was having a nice season before injury. I think Lee will play second fiddle next season.
12. Allen Hurns—JAX
Alex Miglio: He's a poor man's Martavis Bryant.
13. Davante Adams—GB
Jeff Haseley: I'd move Davante Adams up to number nine even if Green Bay re-signs Randall Cobb in the offseason. If Cobb goes elsewhere, Adams shoots up this list to two or three.
Alex Miglio: He is the new James Jones, and a year under his belt will do him wonders. It depends on what happens with Randall Cobb this offseason, but Adams could be in line for a huge increase in playing time.
Stephen Holloway: Many expect Randall Cobb to re-sign in Green Bay, but if he didn't, I would shift Davante Adams up to number nine.
Ryan Hester: I'd move Adams up a few spots even if Cobb stays in Green Bay. If Cobb leaves, Adams shoots way up.
14. John Brown—ARI
Matt Waldman: He was on fire with Palmer as his QB. Should be again. I think he's for real. Should be much higher.
Alex Miglio: He might be heavily discounted thanks to the injury to Carson Palmer, but he is also a boom-or-bust guy.
Kyle Wachtel: John Brown has flashed Emmanuel Sanders-like talent at times despite shaky quarterback play for much of the year and being essentially stuck behind both, Michael Floyd and Larry Fitzgerald. If the Cardinals do look to send the aging Fitzgerald, who boasts an exorbitant contract, flying from the coop, then Brown may find himself in the WR3 conversation for fantasy. Brown's would be lightly penciled in around number seven or eight on this list for me.
15. Paul Richardson Jr—SEA
Matt Waldman: The Seahawks line was a mess and prohibits traditional vertical routes based on timing. If line stays healthy, we'll see more of this and more of Richardson.
Jeff Haseley: The fifteenth slot is probably about right for him, but I like him as a late-round sleeper next year. Ultimately he could climb up my ranks more as moves happen and picks are selected in the offseason. I'm a little leery of the Seahawks passing game, but talent wins out, right? And I like Richardson's talent.
Honorable mention: Allen Robinson—JAX, Albert Wilson—KC, Taylor Gabriel—CLE, Mike Campanaro—BAL, Jared Abbrederis—GB, Philly Brown—CAR, Corey Washington—NYG, Josh Huff—PHI.
Jeff Haseley: I have Allen Robinson in my top ten. He was easily the Jaguars go-to receiver when healthy. I think he comes back as the team's number one receiver next year and has a decent year as a result.
Ryan Hester: I prefer Robinson among Jacksonville's young corps, but with a bunch of talented players a poor offense, none are great options.
Matt Waldman: Robinson has better hands than Lee, and Lee could be relegated to the slot depending on Justin Blackmon's return and where he's used...beat writers say there's a good shot he'll play in 2015.
Lessons from 2014
We've all been involved in this hobby for a long time. Still, I think it's healthy to challenge ourselves to learn something new each year. As our experience grows, we hope to avoid making the same mistakes we've made in the past, and to constantly improve our overall FF skills. What is something that you learned as a result of the 2014 season?
Matt Waldman: One thing I experimented with this season in our staff league was going all-in on a potential game-changer on the waiver wire. I spent my entire $100 budget on Josh Gordon before we knew for sure how much, if at all, his suspension would be reduced.
While I went 7-6 in the league and lost a playoff spot on a tiebreaker, I saw just how much I hamstrung my options as a manager of a squad. I could only take leftover waiver picks from the first-come, first-serve sessions of free agency transactions. This likely cost me 2-4 wins during the regular season.
If Gordon's suspension was a known entity of 4-6 games, I would have made the bid again. However, it wasn't worth the amount of games he missed. I may have landed only one free agent who might have helped me, but it probably would have happened earlier in the season and made a bigger difference for my squad.
This season also reinforced that I should trust my eye for quarterback talent and even in a league filled with bargain hunters at the position, I can still manage to acquire the quarterbacks I want without much issue without having to pick an early round option (rounds 3-5).
I learned in dynasty leagues that I prefer to be patient with players than trade them. You have to know your strengths and weaknesses, and maximizing your strengths is better than trying to turn a weakness into a strength. For instance, two of my strengths are patience and an eye for talent. I'm less prone to mood swings on players because they're a year older, had down year, or had a rough start to their careers. I'm better off holding onto talent I like and only making trades that seem heavily weighted in my favor based on what I think I know versus what the other person thinks he knows.
It means trades aren't really something I want to make a big part of my operational strategy (except with rookie drafts). If I were more changeable and fluid of an owner like Sigmund Bloom—who is more open and flexible to whatever is the most current climate and he'll use that current reality to make trades that benefit him—then I'd be wheeling and dealing. This works for him and he maximizes that strength even if his weakness is that he's more likely to chase a hot new thing down a dead end or cut bait on a good player too soon. I'm more likely to hold onto players too long who don't do anything or fall off the cliff. Still, I'm better at managing those situations than I am trying to constantly wheel and deal.
What I am saying is this: You don't need to be good at every aspect of fantasy football to be a good owner. Hone your strengths and minimize your weaknesses and make your style the best it can be.
Jeff Haseley: Improving your team via waivers is critically important to the success of your team. It's incredibly difficult to draft a winning team that stays healthy all year long. At some point you're going to have to fill holes. Even after Week 5 or six if you don't have any holes, you will. It's nearly inevitable. The way to combat that situation is to proactively claim players off the waiver wire before they are ripe for the picking. It's much cheaper and it's a great strategy, especially if players are on waivers due to an injury that kept them out of the lineup for several weeks, but not severe enough to be out for the season. Case in point Odell Beckham Jr Mike Evans, Mark Ingram to name a few. Always be looking ahead and make identifiable talent claims off the wire, preferably with a good quarterback combination (if a wide receiver or tight end).
It pays to read other people's opinions on these potential identifiable talents. If multiple people are high on a player, including yourself, that's a good indication. Follow the transactions of other leagues and determine if that is a move you should make yourself in your league. Ask other "people in the know" questions. I remember last year in the preseason I asked fellow Footballguys contributor and former player Ryan Riddle a question about wide receivers. My question was more or less, "Which rookie receiver do you see fighting for the opportunity for more playing time, as opposed to going through the motions expecting it to come?" His response was definitive and direct. Simply, "Keenan Allen." If you recall back to 2013, Allen didn't start off strong out of the gates and was dropped for another player in my league. I remembered his response about Allen and I jumped on the opportunity to proactively claim him off waivers. As a result, that pick up and further lineup adjustments led me to the trophy in my local league. Ryan, thanks again. It pays to listen to people in the know as well as read multiple people's opinions on players that you have interest in.
My list of advice...
1. Proactively make waiver claims before everyone else makes a mad dash for the same player.
2. Identify talent and fill holes in your lineup, even if there aren't any at the time. Especially those with a good QB-WR/TE combination.
3. Target players who were dropped due to multiple week injuries and stash them. They'll be back. It's a long season.
4. Follow the transactions in other leagues and make similar moves in your league if the opportunity is there.
5. Read multiple people's opinions on a particular player that has caught your attention
6. Ask questions (the right questions) to people in the know.
7. The first six to eight weeks are critical for waiver claims. Most talent has been identified by then. Don't be afraid to over bid on a waiver claim that you desperately want/need.
Alex Miglio: This season I learned, once again, that I am in too many fantasy leagues.
That might sound silly considering who I am writing for here, but I was over-extended yet again and many of my teams suffered for it. I was unable to keep up with the rigors of fantasy ownership to a proper degree, missing out on many waiver wire additions and the occasional lineup snafu. It was enough to sink me in a few leagues, and I have already begun culling my league count.
Part of the reason my bandwidth was exceeded in traditional fantasy leagues was my deep dive into daily fantasy football, which required a substantial amount of time. While I had certainly dabbled in the DFS arts in the past, the 2014 season provided me with a necessary learning curve. There was plenty to learn, from some basic lingo to fantasy game theory. The biggest lesson I learned in this sector was bankroll management—there was one point this season where I had to start over because I wasn't careful with my bankroll. Thankfully that didn't involve losing a massive amount of money, but any given week can bankrupt a DFS player if they go all in. As Han Solo would say, don't get cocky, kid.
Stephen Holloway: It seems that everyone agrees that the NFL is a passing league, but running backs continue to be drafted early and often. Particularly when your league either allows all flex players to be RB/WR/TE and even more so in leagues with a higher number of starters required, be willing to draft one running back that you believe in early and go heavy wide receiver, while the running backs fly off the board.
The increased receptions by tight ends also seems to compress the value there and as Matt already stated, if you do your homework well, there are ample quarterbacks to accommodate this draft strategy. Even so, remain flexible ALWAYS and take advantage of value picks when they land in your lap.
Ryan Hester: When thinking about what I learned, I generally ask myself first: "what did I do wrong this season?" There were a few occasions this year where, in season-long leagues and in daily leagues, that I tinkered with my lineup late in the week and paid for it.
I set out this season with a goal when crafting lineups: set them on Tuesday using my "gut" and then leave them alone until Thursday afternoon (because of Thursday Night Football and because there is two days' worth of injury news by then). From there, I would only let injuries influence any changes I made until Friday night/Saturday morning (depending on when I had time to perform the next step).
On Friday/Saturday, I would go through my lineups once more, using stats and tidbits I had read throughout the week and incorporating stats like targets, touches, etc. into my decision making for "tiebreaker" situations. This approach would almost always yield to sound decision-making...unless I went back in on Sunday morning and made a rash change. Almost every time I made a late change, it was the incorrect call.
This was especially true in daily lineups because often times, one changes means you must make another due to a jump or dip in salary and needing to stay under the cap. For a few weeks, my Tuesday "gut call" lineup was almost always better than the one I ultimately settled on. I ended up changing my daily fantasy routine to not look at salaries or lineups at all until Thursday afternoons. If I didn't want to play in Thursday contests, I'd even wait until Friday night or later to make the lineups. This strategy was much more sound.
Regardless of your strategy, pick a process and stick to it. That's the lesson for me.
Will Grant: Jeff nailed my biggest lesson—but with a positive spin. My lesson was that you can't just phone in your ownership activity once the draft is over. I got really busy at points this season and would frequently log into my leagues on Sunday morning to set my lineups. Even though I managed to draft well and avoid any bye week issues, I would frequently be caught with a Thursday player that I didn't start, or an injured player that I hadn't picked up a backup or spot starter for.
League fantasy play requires big commitment if you want to be successful. Even if you kill your draft, you still have to be active in the waiver wire and management of your team.
On the daily side—I learned much more about the difference between cash games (double ups and 50/50s) and the guaranteed prize pool games where you can really win big bucks if you pick the right lineup. I've lived in the cash world for the last two years and done well given my conservative betting style, but taking a few shots on GPP games has been exciting. I haven't hit a home run yet, but I've configured a few lineups that had real potential and if done right, it could really pay off. If you really want to get serious about the daily space, reading weekly FBG information about it can give you a huge advantage.
That will do it for this edition of the Footballguys Roundtable. Please join us again next week.